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Re: [hylafax-users] new community site
Interesting news Lee, thanks.
Personally I would prefer, if you wish to divide the community, that you
would do so under completely different branding and a different name, so as
to avoid confusion. I'm also disappointed that you didn't involve the
hylafax-devel mailing list (or community) in your plans in a cooperative,
collaborative way. I can hope that you have at least consulted most of the
principal contributors privately.
iFAX Solutions is not desirous of heeavily commercializing the hylafax.org
domain. It's important for us to be very distinct from hylafax.org in fact,
which is why you don't see any big flashing banners on hylafax.org, and
which is why ifax.com looks nothing like hylafax.org. What little we have
done was been no more than what Sourceforge will also do - the occasional
sponsored link. I believe we have been very tasteful and respectful, and
every time we have made major changes (such as the wiki) they have been
discussed on -devel, and decided by group discussion and concensus. The
reason we do this is the same reason Sourceforge do it - to help pay for the
bandwidth, the disk space, and the staff to 'make it all go'.
We're still thinking through the implications of your surprising action, but
just to be clear, hylafax.org has been the home of open source HylaFAX for
years, and we believe that should continue to be the case. We, and the
various hylafax contributors who help hylafax.org keep running, hope the
community will remain with us.
-Darren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Howard" <faxguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:23 PM
Subject: [hylafax-users] new community site
Everyone,
I've spent some time over the last few weeks and now believe that I have
got everything set up well at the Sourceforge HylaFAX site:
http://hylafax.sourceforge.net
I've updated the content of the web pages, including the How-To, and I've
removed some other content that I felt had become so outdated that the
information would be better off gone than left in-place. I've also made an
effort to simplify the site... making it easier for newcomers (who are
probably the ones that need most to use the site) to navigate and get to
information useful to them. I have not yet finished updating the HylaFAQ,
as I imagine that it will take a fair amount of time to clean that up
(content as well as fixing some link names and things).
I've also started uploading "sub-releases" to the Sourceforge HylaFAX
site. My thoughts behind sub-releases are to simply label a cut of CVS
HEAD at regular, frequent (like every month during periods of "heavy"
development) as a sub-release and hang it up on there. The intent of this
is to increase exposure to new developments and fixes in the code without
needing to battle through the sometimes lengthy release process.
Why have I set up the Sourceforge HylaFAX site?
Truthfully, it's an act of mercy. The hylafax.org domain registrant is
desireous, as you may well be able to tell, to use the domain for
commercial purposes. This is the registrant's right. The recent
announcement of a sponsored site reworking will likely only result in
further commercialization. In the past I have been very much opposed to
this trend, and it has caused too much friction. Certainly we should be
able to understand the registrant's desire to profit from the investment
that has been made and the rather lustrous community that has sprung up
around it. I can understand that, and my hope, then, is that the
existence of the Sourceforge HylaFAX site will allow the hylafax.org
registrant to proceed without any further complaints from me.
The Sourceforge HylaFAX site has its own set of mailing lists, and I
invite any who wish to participate in the HylaFAX community there to feel
free to so do. I'm there, of course.
Thanks,
Lee.
P.S. Admittedly there still will be some degree of usual Sourceforge
advertisement going on at the new site, which includes a small footer to
mailing list posts (similar to what's done on this list) and banner-ads on
some "behind-the-scenes" web pages (like the Tracker). I'm not able to
change this; however, it is limited to that extent.
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