Re: [hylafax-users] Hylafax RPMS for Fedora Core 3

["Tom Rymes" <trymes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Rymes
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 3:56 PM
> To: hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [hylafax-users] Hylafax RPMS for Fedora Core 3
> 
> 
> Not to fan the flames, but:
> 
> What advertising is there? I must have installed 5 different 
> version of HylaFAX and I can't say I remember seeing any....
> 
> Not that anyone cares about my opinion, but I consider RPMs 
> to be frighteningly useful, and consider them essential. Some 
> silly Text banner on an ftp site, or something that scrolls 
> by as the RPM installs seems like a minor annoyance at worst.
> 
> Just my $0.02,
> 
> Tom
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren 
> > Nickerson
> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:40 AM
> > To: Lee Howard; Chris Jones
> > Cc: hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [hylafax-users] Hylafax RPMS for Fedora Core 3
> > 
> > 
> > Lee,
> > 
> > Clearly you _do_ want to start the debate again, or you 
> would not be 
> > posting the comments you have been, causing people to wonder where
> > they're going to 
> > get their RPMs now.
> > 
> > For the record, iFAX has no plans to discontinue maintaining RedHat 
> > RPMs for HylaFAX. They were being compiled here yesterday, 
> and will be
> > available for 
> > download shortly. We have a few new architectures available 
> > and a tidied up 
> > naming scheme, along with some of the more valuable patches 
> > since the 4.2.1 
> > release was announced, so they should be pretty useful.
> > 
> > Your public postings are in no way a fair representation of our 
> > private conversation. You objected to iFAX advertising our support
> > services in the 
> > RPMs that people download from ftp.hylafax.org. Despite the 
> > fact that iFAX 
> > provides this FTP facility to the community in the first 
> > place, I understood 
> > where you were coming from, and decided to either:
> > 
> > a) remove the advertising and keep the RPMs on hylafax.org
> > b) provide an alternative download link that's not on 
> ftp.hylafax.org 
> > and keep the advertising in.
> > 
> > There was no 'insisting' on keeping it. That's ridiculous.
> > 
> > Time constraints and the rebuilding we had to do on 
> essential services
> > recently has diverted attention from this matter, and so we 
> > have simply 
> > removed the advertising from the RPMs for now. We don't have 
> > time to open a 
> > discussion on binary package policy and/or restrictions, 
> > reach concensus and 
> > then restructure the way packages are, or are not organized on 
> > ftp.hylafax.org. We will do so, but not for _this_ RPM release.
> > 
> > I wish you'd stop posting divisive and misleading comments 
> in public 
> > forums.
> > 
> > -Darren
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lee Howard" <faxguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Chris Jones" <c.jones@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hylafax-users] Hylafax RPMS for Fedora Core 3
> > 
> > 
> > > On 2005.02.04 01:46 Chris Jones wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 10:12 -0800, Lee Howard wrote:
> > >> > I'm not sure if hylafax.org will be providing RPMs (or
> > SRPMS) any
> > >> > more.  There was some debate on that matter.
> > >>
> > >> Can I ask why not? It is fantastically useful :)
> > >
> > > I really don't want to start up the debate again.
> > >
> > > Some of us do not like the commercial advertising that is
> > going on in
> > > them, and those that do the advertising insist on keeping it in.
> > >
> > > Lee.
> > >
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