[hylafax-users] OS-X support Solution?!??

[Guy R.Loucks <gstmgmtc@optushome.com.au>]

Sorry if this is a duplicate, I have not seen any activity on the devel 
group in a while, are people still using this?

I think I am close to making progress on the OSX port for hfaxd...  I 
welcome comments on the transcripts below.

Regards,

Guy

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> From: "Guy R.Loucks" <loucksg@optushome.com.au>
> Date: Tue Oct 02, 2001  08:17:45  PM Australia/Sydney
> To: hylafax-devel@hylafax.org
> Subject: [hylafax-devel] Re: OS-X support Solution?!??
>
> So close:
>
> Oct  2 19:52:40 localhost HylaFAX[13096]: getpeername: Socket operation 
> on non-socket
>
> Oct  2 19:56:16 localhost HylaFAX[13105]: getpeername: Socket operation 
> on non-socket
>
> I have seen this referenced before, I think this is a pointer size 
> issue on the getsocket operation of hfaxd. I am open to suggestions. 
> The notes below worked.
>
> I created a ~faxadm/dev
> and mount -t devfs ~faxadm/dev /var/spool/fax/dev
>
> It looks now like the chrooted environment may be ok!
>
> I will update as I discover more.
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2001, at 07:29  PM, Guy R.Loucks wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Looks like we have a goes on OSX: I think this can be included in the 
>> install script. I am testing this against the current release, and 
>> will try it against the release candidate. From Apple:
>>
>> it doesn't say so in the man pages, but special device files can only
>> exist in a devfs filesystem, and thus mknod will only create files in
>> a devfs filesystem.
>>
>> The US guys suggested that if you mount a devfs filesystem in a
>> user's environment, you can edit the device files available to the
>> user without impacting what is in the /dev directory.
>>
>> eg
>>
>> mkdir ~/dev
>> mount -t devfs devfs ~/dev
>>
>> This will provide the system defaults in a devfs filesystem in the
>> ~/dev directory - any device files manually created in /dev will not
>> be automatically duplicated.
>>
>> Note also that the ditto command can be used to copy device special
>> files between devfs filesystems.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> So I will make a ~faxadm/dev and mount it on the var/spool/fax/dev 
>> directory, and we should have a production environment. If we can get 
>> it into the install scripts. I will put the next release notes up on 
>> the Apple OSX software downloads page.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Guy
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 1, 2001, at 12:51  PM, Guy R. Loucks wrote:
>>
>>> People,
>>>
>>> Ok the conclusion of the investigation of hfaxd in OSX, we can not 
>>> support a chrooted environment under OSX. Actually we can support it, 
>>> but you can not have access to device special files, you need to make 
>>> the requests from the O/S supplied drivers.
>>>
>>> OSX will not all us to create a /dev/null etc. under the 
>>> /var/spool/fax directory etc.
>>>
>>> My thoughts, some conditional compile code around to omit the 
>>> chrooted environment in OSX, with huge disclaimers warning people of 
>>> the security implications etc.
>>>
>>> Or I welcome any other thoughts on the matter. I have placed a call 
>>> with Apple, although they have been so busy with OSX 10.1 (running 
>>> this now) I don't think I will ge an answer for a few weeks.
>>>
>>> I welcome everyones thoughts and input on a resolution to hfaxd.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 07:57  AM, Guy R. Loucks wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello again people,
>>>>
>>>> My apologies for being away for so long. Some good news.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose give the past fortnight just about anything is good news.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like our little mknod problem may be more generic. I have 
>>>> had apple duplicate the issue, and forward it as a case for 
>>>> investigation internally. It behaves this way in 10.0 - .4, and has 
>>>> been tested against 10.1 RC-1. I am wondering of maybe removing the 
>>>> chrooted environment from hfaxd, and just trying it against the 
>>>> native OS-x device special files as a test.
>>>>
>>>> As a reminder, the problem is making DEVICE SPECIAL files outside of 
>>>> the /dev directory does not appear to work.
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts and comments welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Guy
>>>>
>>>> ---
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